Independent Contractors
2009-06-15 16:09:02.120945+00 by
ebradway
11 comments
My wife teaches yoga at The Yoga Workshop. She just received an ultimatum from
the studio's new owners that all teachers need to by incorporated as limited
liability corporations (LLC) by July 15th. We are trying understand the
motivations behind this pronouncement.
Like most yoga teachers, my wife has always been paid on 1099s. She's always
been an independent contractor. But the State of Colorado seems to be cracking
down on businesses that abuse 1099 employee status. For instance, my wife has
regular scheduled classes - a schedule that changes, at most four times a year.
She's not doing fixed piecework. It's also common - but not too frequent - that
she has only one or two students show up. She is paid by the head, so if she
teachers for two hours and only one student showed up, she's making about
$2.50/hour on a 1099.
It is enough of a problem that last year, when gas prices spiked, she rearranged
her schedule so she was making fewer trips in to work because she was losing
money by the time she paid for gas.
What are the benefits (and cons) to a company employing 1099 contractors versus
W2 employees? What are the benefits (and cons) to a worker being paid on a 1099
versus a W2? What defines an independent contractor versus an employee?
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#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-15 18:21:58.095185+00 by:
Dan Lyke
Sounds like this is the very definition of what the crackdowns on 1099s are generally trying to target: She's not really an independent contractor, her schedule is being dictated by the studio, and they're getting away with paying her a whole lot less than she'd be getting paid as an hourly employee because they're claiming she is one.
The crackdowns generally have two motivations: They're trying to make sure that people aren't skipping out on paying their taxes, and they're trying to enforce minimum wage and similar laws. If your wife is paying her taxes, then this is aimed squarely at the yoga studio that's been getting volunteer labor from her.
#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-15 18:52:17.331188+00 by:
Dan Lyke
So, going a little bit further:
Benefits to a company paying via 1099:
- Higher perceived pay rate because the employee has to pay the additional employment taxes.
- No unemployment insurance.
- A lot fewer labor laws apply. Things like overtime hours, stuff like that, aren't required.
- Various retirement tax situations allow the company to sequester money for employees as long as it does the same thing for all employees of the company as a percent of compensation. Hiring non-principals via 1099 lets the principals of the company do this with amounts of money they couldn't do if they were having to match that for those employees as W2.
Benefits to a would-be employee:
- No unemployment insurance. If you're a decent money manager you can budget for this on your own and account for the fact that you're probably less likely to need unemployment insurance than your average worker.
- Flexible schedule.
- More clearly delineated rules on who owns what IP and who you're working for.
- Moonlighting is a necessity, not something to be done under the radar of your day job.
- Deductions of equipment and similar tax benefits.
#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-15 18:54:06.56494+00 by:
ebradway
Yep. We even left out a bunch of deductions to make sure she made her Social
Security contribution.
Of course, she usually makes more than minimum wage. It's more common for her to
have 10 students at $5/head for a 1.5 hour class. It would be interesting to work
out the head count at which she really makes more money than on a W2 after
accounting for taxes and insurance.
#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-15 19:02:36.553067+00 by:
ebradway
(un)Benefits:
My wife's work involves no IP.
All equipment is provided.
She has to carry her own liability insurance.
She works the classes they offer her. She can turn it down - but she can't work
whenever she wants.
She has had no students show up before. That means no money. Students pay
between $10 and $15 per class depending on the package they buy. This means the
studio takes 50% to 100% in overhead.
Compared to the 1099 work I've done in the past - the contract specifically says
I need to produce a program or a map with characteristics x,y,z for $Q by R
date. Sometimes I'm asked to use a specific tool or language - usually not. I
have complete oversight on how the results are produced. I use my own equipment,
in my own office, in the hours I choose. And there is absolutely no expectation
that I will work for the client again.
#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-15 20:22:43.833529+00 by:
Dan Lyke
And what's having an LLC going to cost? I think you definitely need to get some numbers on average income, and start costing that commute at actual vehicle costs, not just fuel costs. Even an older car probably costs you twice the fuel to operate.
#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-15 21:00:47.375417+00 by:
ebradway
The LLC isn't terribly expensive - and doesn't really add a lot in terms of
accounting costs (i.e., I'll still be able to do the taxes with the $99 version of
TurboTax).
Asha's net isn't just her paychecks from the yoga studio. One of her primary
sources of clients for her private work is her students at the studio. So the
direct costs of making a class get muddled with the returns of exposure. She also
enjoys a certain cache for teaching at a premier yoga studio - which translates
into workshops in other cities.
#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-15 21:05:15.210555+00 by:
Nancy
Secretary of State - links to the right under gen info have FAQ and fee schedules and more.
#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-15 23:37:12.872898+00 by:
Larry Burton
Would the LLC not be handy for her private work?
#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-16 10:31:45.642542+00 by:
DaveP
The other benefit to becoming an LLC is, well, limited liability. Say there's some sort of accident and a
student sues. With an LLC it's the corporation that's getting sued. You and your wife can walk away with
minimal damage at the personal level. With no corporation, it's possible that the plaintiff could come after
personal assets.
It's a low-probability thing, but there are times when folks get litigation-happy. But I wouldn't work as an
independent contractor without having a corporation of some form there just for personal protection.
But as Dan points out, this crackdown is aimed at the studio, not her.
#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-16 13:07:09.678459+00 by:
Dan Lyke
Dave, the corporate limited liability thing is less useful than you may think: There's no control over which entity a plaintiff will choose to sue, the individual or the corporation, especially in a situation where the individual was teaching the class and would be the potentially negligent/whatever person.
#Comment Re: made: 2009-06-17 18:20:35.456921+00 by:
ebradway
Larry & Dave: Yes, we were already considering creating a corporation of some kind
for her. It's just the issue of the studio requiring her to form an LLC.
Dan: That's an interesting point and only makes me more certain that the only
reason the studio is requiring their contractors to be LLC is to maintain the
status quo in which people who are really employees are being paid on 1099s.