End student loans
2012-06-19 23:05:56.204601+00 by
Dan Lyke
4 comments
Via Slashdot, an editorial by Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity and teacher of economics at Ohio University, calling for the abolition of student loans. It's fairly clear to me that student loans have simply resulted in colleges fleecing even more out of their students, and driving those students further into indentured servitude.
We can make an argument that college should be subsidized, that there is a public good from having more educated people (although I think we need to start finding some metrics to apply here, because I also think that higher education has become a huge circle jerk that far too often trades critical thinking for regurgitating canon), but if that's true then we're really better off recouping those benefits via, say, income taxes, and paying for the education up-front.
At least if we really believe in that educational system. Whence my opinion that we also need some metrics...
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#Comment Re: made: 2012-06-20 04:02:15.334211+00 by:
ebradway
I've felt its a matter of trying to shift the way public colleges and
universities are supported. It used to be that the University of Colorado
received most of its funding through the State. Last I heard, less than 4% of
the University budget came from the State. The rest is from a mix of tuition,
indirects on research grants, and private donations.
Since the Federal Government has been squeezing the NSF and more states have
been pushing research universities to suck from that tit, grants are ever more
competitive. Private funds are also hard to come by. This is why the University
of Colorado, well before UVa, is presided over by a President who was selected
on his fund raising abilities and not his academic credentials.
That leaves tuition as the only source of income Universities have any direct
control over. The Federal Government recognizes the squeeze and provides
indirect support through loan programs.
Unfortunately, the burden is cast on people trying to better themselves.
Education, like a mortgage, was traditionally one of the "good" kinds of debt.
What many young people don't realize is that you incur the debt even if you
don't finish the degree. And even if you do finish, there is no guarantee of
better earning potential.
#Comment Re: made: 2012-06-20 12:54:00.911474+00 by:
Larry Burton
Yeah, and they are making the same mistakes in handing out student loans as they
did with mortgages right before the bust. People get the loans who don't have
the ability to succeed in college. We see what that got us in the housing
market.
#Comment Re: made: 2012-06-20 19:22:27.157298+00 by:
ebradway
The difference is that there is no asset to foreclose on when a student loan goes into default. If everyone stopped paying on their student loans, the banks would have nothing. At least with mortgages, they had a house they could sell to recoup some of the losses.
Education, as it has been perverted today, does not provide a private asset commensurate with the private debt responsibility. This is why education needs to be publicly funded. There is a measure of public good that comes with education that the public should fund.
Anything beyond that level of education, schools should be financially responsible for their students success. What I mean is that schools should be able to guarantee that spending $X will result in $Y increase in income (or increase in employability). Failing that, schools should not expect to be paid.
Maybe schools need to work off a commission basis. A BS costs 10% of your inflation-adjusted salary increase over the next 10 years. A PhD costs 25% of your inflation-adjusted salary increase over the next 10 years. No increase, no money for the school.
#Comment Re: made: 2012-06-23 14:57:09.949697+00 by:
battjt
If we eliminate 3rd party education loans, then the colleges will be forced to
provide their own loans. The colleges would be much more careful to train those
who will succeed, at least enough to pay back the loan.
This is much like the grants based on need and alumni giving system that works
today. They give grants based on need in hopes that those students will give
back when they are able.
The down side is that I've known excellent college students who came out of high
school with a very average or even below average history. It will be harder for
these guys to get the funding.