spanking harmful
2016-04-28 18:14:22.182939+00 by
Dan Lyke
7 comments
Posting this somewhat for the content, but mostly because: Holy crap! This is the first time I've seen a popular site acknowledge the press release from which the article was rewritten! Hallefreakinlujah! We need to make citing sources something we demand from our media outlets, congratulations and major kudos to Science Daily for taking this step!
Science Daily: Risks of harm from spanking confirmed by analysis of 5 decades of research.
Taken from UT News: Risks of Harm from Spanking Confirmed by Analysis of Five Decades of Research
The study, published in this month’s Journal of Family Psychology, looks at five decades of research involving over 160,000 children. The researchers say it is the most complete analysis to date of the outcomes associated with spanking, and more specific to the effects of spanking alone than previous papers, which included other types of physical punishment in their analyses.
“Our analysis focuses on what most Americans would recognize as spanking and not on potentially abusive behaviors,” says Elizabeth Gershoff, an associate professor of human development and family sciences at The University of Texas at Austin. “We found that spanking was associated with unintended detrimental outcomes and was not associated with more immediate or long-term compliance, which are parents’ intended outcomes when they discipline their children.”
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#Comment Re: spanking harmful made: 2016-04-28 20:12:46.158519+00 by:
Larry Burton
How did they determine this wasn't a chicken and egg problem. Were they
anti-social and disrespectful to their parents because they were spanked
more or were they spanked more because they were anti-social and
disrespectful to their parents?
#Comment Re: spanking harmful made: 2016-04-29 11:57:59.047059+00 by:
DaveP
Oh! Spanking of CHILDREN. Well, that's different.
#Comment Re: spanking harmful made: 2016-04-29 13:50:46.332021+00 by:
Dan Lyke
Strictly speaking, I think what this meta study determined is that children who were
spanked but not otherwise physically abused had similarly detrimental outcomes to children
who were physically abused.
It could be that those physically abused kids and the spanked kids both had it coming and
knew what it was for.
#Comment Re: spanking harmful made: 2016-04-29 18:32:38.75863+00 by:
Mars Saxman
My own childhood and subsequent psychological issues started to make a great deal more sense when I stopped making this artificial distinction between "spanking" and "physical abuse".
"Compliance" is certainly not a word anyone would associate with my behavior, then or now.
#Comment Re: spanking harmful made: 2016-05-07 11:06:04.551657+00 by:
meuon
I still think "spanking" is a viable last resort. Last resort. I was spanked a couple times for
things worth being spanked for, after other things didn't work. And I've been to court
prescribed parenting class for spanking my own son, 1 time. In both cases, it modified
behavior a couple of notches. In either case, neither of us (my son, or myself) would be
described as "compliant" personalities. Every case is different, with everything else going on
in the lives of the parent and child a factor. The issue is parents whom seem have only one
way of providing negative reenforcement.
#Comment Re: spanking harmful made: 2016-05-10 14:30:53.165447+00 by:
Dan Lyke
I think it'd be interesting to find a way to get finer grained data on how parents use spanking. My mental model of how children work allows for spanking as an absolute last resort (ie: the sort of thing that happens 2 or 3 times in the course of childhood, tops), but I have no larger data to support or refute that general sense.
#Comment Re: spanking harmful made: 2016-05-10 15:37:04.244056+00 by:
Larry Burton
I used it when immediate consequences were called for, like a slap on the
hand as they were reaching for a hot pot, and was entirely age dependent.
Rarely is that immediacy called for as they get older. Breaking up fights
between brothers or my son and a neighbor sometimes required a swat on the
bottom.