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Am I the only person who tries really

2021-09-15 18:00:02.604888+02 by Dan Lyke 9 comments

Am I the only person who tries really hard to get into these newfangled IDEs and editors, but eventually the many seconds of lag between keystrokes and changes becomes intolerable, and back to Emacs? (today it's XCode.)

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#Comment Re: Am I the only person who tries really made: 2021-09-15 18:16:58.614959+02 by: markd

Xcode is egregiously bad (I have 200+ bugs filed). I've totally gone back to emacs for everything except for building / using the debugger (and even that experience has really degenerated over the years), and the occasional time when I need completion (never got it working reliably in emacs-land).

#Comment Re: Am I the only person who tries really made: 2021-09-15 19:44:43.350364+02 by: spc476

I'm still waiting to find an IDE that I can't crash inside of 10 minutes of using.

#Comment Re: Am I the only person who tries really made: 2021-09-16 02:03:20.577459+02 by: Mars Saxman

Not the only one; I gave up on IDEs years ago. Debuggers, too. I have found VSCode to be reasonably OK, though.

#Comment Re: Am I the only person who tries really made: 2021-09-18 21:43:19.136524+02 by: John Anderson

...am I the only person that never actually left Emacs? :grin:

#Comment Re: Am I the only person who tries really made: 2021-09-19 06:30:55.935132+02 by: Dan Lyke

I, unfortunately, haven't had the chance to work on a specific platform long enough to remember if it's .length or .count or whatever on this particular environment, so have learned to use auto-complete as a crutch.

I miss C. I really miss C.

#Comment Re: Am I the only person who tries really made: 2021-09-21 22:10:41.372205+02 by: markd

@john the only time I left emacs in the last 30 years was doing MacOS stuff in the mid 90s, using an obscure editor called Preditor[Wiki]. It had a lot of emacs inspiration and keybindings, so I wasn't toooo far away

#Comment Re: Am I the only person who tries really made: 2021-09-22 06:53:48.131097+02 by: John Anderson

@dan `lsp-mode` is really pretty nice and there's servers out there for all sorts of stuff that will give you the same level of crutch you would get in VSCode.

#Comment Re: Am I the only person who tries really made: 2021-09-22 06:54:42.9987+02 by: John Anderson

@markd Keep the faith, yo.

(Aside: what is[Wiki] the gender neutral version of "brother" to use in that sort of affirmation, anyway?)

#Comment Re: Am I the only person who tries really made: 2021-09-22 20:59:47.929027+02 by: spc476

Dan, you need to lead a bit more as C can be quite fast and it's too easy to miss it.

John, there's "sibling", but "keep the faith, sibling" doesn't quite have the same ring.