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Public floggings

2001-08-13 13:57:43+00 by Dan Lyke 5 comments

Iran to step up public floggings. The only issue I have with this is their list of offenses. If we could do this to people who run IIS[Wiki] servers and send HTML email, I'd be behind this sort of punishment in a heartbeat.

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#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:32:29+00 by: Pete

I can't get behind your fervant hatred of HTML email. As implemented in the dominant mail clients (the various Outlooks), it is a vector for trouble, but that's a design shortcoming of the client. Give me a mail client that will only render HTML mail using the elements attached to the mail (unless I specify otherwise, message by message), and there's no problem.

#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:32:29+00 by: Pete

However, I will say that the likelyhood that JavaScript in a usenet post is being used for nefarious purposes approaches 100%.

Still, that's about JavaScript, not HTML.

Make me net.king for a day and I wouldn't stamp out HTML email or even JavaScript in usenet (deal with it at the client level), I'd make mail traffic 8 bit.

#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:32:29+00 by: Dan Lyke

My problem is that I've only seen a very few situations where HTML in email would possibly enhance the communication, and those have all been theoretical.

Usually HTML email is sent by users who can't figure out how to change their own mail client's display settings, and therefore think that they're doing you a favor by putting tiny red text on an orange background (like the guy who, last time I was ranting about web design on Flutterby, complained about the fact that as a default I use his browser defaults for colors...).

And almost always, in the theoretical situations when someone might send HTML legitimately, what they really mean to do is put the HTML in an archive accessible via HTTP and send a pointer to that document.

#Comment made: 2001-08-13 23:57:17+00 by: Pete [edit history]

My problem is that I've only seen a very few situations where HTML in email would possibly enhance the communication...

Then

WHY

do you support it in your comment code?

What, no blink support?! Or is it just undocumented?

#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:32:30+00 by: Dan Lyke

Because I hope that readers making comments here think of them more along the lines of document creation than simple peer-to-peer communication.

And definitely no blink support. I built the comment system on top of the general content management framework, which allows HTML4.0 loose elements. I tried using the strict definition, but the platforms I use Flutterby from aren't all CSS capable, and I still wanted to be able to override colors on those systems without reasonable user selectable color handling.