Mac Goodness
2005-05-09 16:18:51.633657+00 by
Dan Lyke
11 comments
I'm preferring the Mac to Windows, but there are still a lot of features X and Linux provide that I miss. One point in favor of the Mac, however, is the existence of the Faith Converter 1.8:
Found an admirable tome but it's in praise of the wrong god?
The premier theological plagiarism solution for OS X, Faith Converter
converts text between twenty-seven different religions...
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comments in ascending chronological order (reverse):
#Comment Re: made: 2005-05-09 17:36:22.435803+00 by:
DaveP
I'm wondering what you're missing from Linux/X. You can install the full X11 package, and I've only found one or two things in the ports tree (from Open/
Free/Net-BSD) that don't Just Work.
So if there are things you're missing, I'm curious what they might be. Maybe a guy could make a buck
updating a port or two...
#Comment Re: made: 2005-05-09 18:20:52.543189+00 by:
Dan Lyke
Mostly it's little touches:
- I still hate the menu bar placement.
- Desperately miss right click to toggle rearmost/frontmost on a window (eg:
the window I want is below this one), although the preference to slide the
mouse into a corner and get thumbnails for selecting focus is kind of cool.
- Even though I have two windows and lots of screen real estate, I miss
virtual workspaces. Part of this is the aforementioned loathed menu bar
issue, part of this is that it's a nice way to partition my working modes;
forcing everything into a single toolbar doesn't give me an easy way to
say "all this stuff is when I'm in dev mode, all this stuff is when I'm
in email reading mode" and so forth.
- Mouse cursor stuff is just often wrong. For instance, I'm typing
this in Firefox, if I mouse
off the side of this window (which is on screen 2) and then go up to the
menu on screen 1, I'm selecting the menu with an I-beam rather than a
pointer. This occurs in lots of other weird places too, such that I'm
trying to second guess the mouse selection mode far too often.
I'd be more happy with the X stuff provided under Fink if the cut/copy/paste integration with native apps was better. And I'm finding inconsistent behaviors with dealing with extra mouse buttons, such that I'm back to trying to discover the 80 or 90 key mouse that is the normal way of interacting with the Mac (ie: chord the mouse with the keyboard) rather than have the simplicity of the 5 button mouse (left, right, center, up, down) on X and Windows.
Speaking of which, if I ever find the person who implemented the scroll wheel code on the Mac we are going to... have. words. period. The fact that scroll wheel behavior is non-linear and so huge makes it almost useless for reading long web pages, because how far the text jumps depends on how fast I scroll, so that five ticks down, five ticks up can leave me in a completely different place in the document.
#Comment Re: [Entry #7902] Re: made: 2005-05-10 02:06:02.336986+00 by:
John Anderson
Dan Lyke <danlyke@flutterby.com> writes:
> * Even though I have two windows and lots of screen real estate, I
> miss virtual workspaces.
See Desktop
Manager. Like you, my brain doesn't work right without workspaces;
this makes that particular pain go away.
cheers,
john.
--
"You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep."
- Navajo Proverb
#Comment Re: made: 2005-05-10 02:40:04.111793+00 by:
Dan Lyke
Wow. Desktop Manager is totally cool. Thanks. And its preconfigured desktops are even named by my work styles.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-05-10 13:11:55.94199+00 by:
DaveP
For the mouse, I use a MS Intellimouse Explorer (the big old 5-button one) and the MS driver. USB
OverDrive is a better driver, probably. Both will let you control the
scroll wheel acceleration behavior.
For the "send to back" and such on windows, I find that command-backquote to cycle windows usually
gets me where I want to be, and it's a left-hand key-combo. Since I right-hand mouse, left-hand key-
combos are part of my mousing repertoire.
I agree that X/Fink would be better with better cut/paste, but I'm afraid that one's just going to take
time.
The mouse-cursor stuff is bogus, yes. I'm not sure why apps get confused as often as they do, but I
want to bonk the responsible developers with a clue-by-four. I wish I could figure a way to fix that
without having to get inside all their applications. The single thing I miss most from Mac OS <X is the
ability to patch broken applications by writing an extension. I did a lot of that back in the day. Much
more difficult with protected memory, but then again, nobody else is patching my machine with broken
code, so I accept it.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-05-10 14:28:11.968142+00 by:
markd
If you want to do to app-specific, and system wide patches, check out APE (
APE) or if you to get at a lower level, mach_inject and mach_override (
mach_inject). If they're cocoa apps, you can also load
bundles by using the spelling services. (I haven't done it myself, but it'd probably be easier than
mach_inject, and cheaper than APE)
#Comment Re: made: 2005-05-10 15:15:44.542528+00 by:
Jerry Kindall
Mouse cursor stuff is just often wrong.
I can't say I've ever seen anything remotely like this. In fact, fiddling with Firefox right now, I just can't
get it to misbehave that way.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-05-10 15:36:51.029094+00 by:
Dan Lyke
Bring up this page non-maximized in Firefox, position the mouse cursor over the text input area (not just plain text) to get the I-beam cursor. Go off the left edge of the input and the Firefox window. Cursor stays as I-beam.
In fact, it does this over text with no left margin, too.
Stock 10.3.9 as shipped from Apple, no OS extensions that I know of loaded.
Basically, it looks like the menu bar doesn't count as a window, and because there's no notion of anything but the foreground window having control, nothing else ever resets the mouse. As an application developer, it seems that you not only have to set the mouse when it enters a region, but you have to do some intelligence to reset it when it leaves.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-05-10 18:05:25.523548+00 by:
Jerry Kindall
Nope, can't reproduce that. Of course, I just upgraded to 10.4 yesterday, so maybe it would have happened before that -- in any case, I've never noticed any problems with the pointer in the last three years of using OS X. For example, the cursor does change to the SPOD when you pass it over a window of a non-foreground application that has locked up, so clearly it's not just foreground applications that can affect the pointer.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-05-10 18:47:53.732075+00 by:
markd
Does the mouse thing happen in anything other than Firefox? I've seen some UI funkyness in Firefox that I
don't see elsewhere (copy/pasting the wrong thing happens all the time from FF for me)
#Comment Re: made: 2005-05-10 19:08:10.940068+00 by:
Dan Lyke
I thought so, but I'm unable to reproduce it with anything else I've got open right now. I did notice that it seems like a function of speed over the boundary areas, and all the other apps I'm running this moment have larger borders areas than Firefox...