sargent pepper taught his band
2005-09-28 22:13:17.491463+00 by
Dan Lyke
10 comments
I tried the "lookup the top 100
songs from the year I graduated high school, strike out the ones
you wouldn't listen to" meme, and ended up with... well... one or two
I might not turn the dial to avoid if I heard 'em come on the
radio now. Dave
got a better year.
But Columbine stole this idea
for a journal entry from M'ris, and it's
one I figured might be worth a shot. Long entry in the comment.
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#Comment Re: made: 2005-09-28 22:14:47.673803+00 by:
Dan Lyke
20 years ago... I was starting my senior year of high
school. In Newtown, Connecticut. I've occasionally described Fairfield
County as the Marin County of the East Coast, but really that's not
true. They're completely different attitudes, and Fairfield County has
Danbury, and perhaps (I forget) Bridgeport, so even though portions of
it are very rich, there was, at least at the time, a mix of social
strata. I'd transferred after 7th grade from a Waldorf school in
upstate New York, so I'd had a bunch of adjustment issues which
never really let me fit in to a standard public school (or society in
general), but I had several teachers who had PhDs in their subjects,
and by senior year I was into subjects that I was starting to like.
Midway through this year my family would move to Chattanooga, I'd
spend a week and a half in Hixson High School, realize how good
Newtown's school was, and move in with a friend's family to finish my
schooling back up there.
A few years ago, maybe it's been 8 or 9 years, I tracked down and
talked to that friend, and it seems that all of us had gone our
separate ways. He said "it's funny, we all became exactly what we said
we were going to be", and in finding a few other people I discovered
he was right. And, oddly, we had nothing else.
15 years ago I was a professional whitewater guide on
the weekends, and a programmer during the week. I was probably a
quarter of a million lines of C code into my avocation, just figuring
out what it meant to be a real programmer. I miss those days, I miss
those skills, I miss the idea that a programmer should be able to
optimize display drivers on one day and build better B-Tree database
locking algorithms on the net. Programming nowadays is more like
TinkerToys than woodworking, and I miss
the feel of a sharp chisel on hard wood.
I'd just started running across the woman I fell hopelessly in love
with, with whom I thought it would be a good idea to start an
animation studio with (good idea, bad interpersonal reasons, too few
people for critical mass); my relationship with her would eventually
push me into a depression that drove me to a weekend in April of 1991
with what is now called the ManKind
Project, that was a cusp in my life.
So at this point I was still a repressed twenty something, coming out
a bit because raft guiding is half entertainment (and becomes more so
as you get better at the whitewater bits), but hadn't yet experienced
all of those clichés of self-discovery.
But I was in great shape, still rock climbing a bunch, and about to
enter my prime year of paddling.
And it'd be a year and a bit before I met Catherine.
10 years ago I had just left my community in
Chattanooga and arrived on the west coast with Catherine to work for
Pixar. I'd spent the past year or two
conslutting some, but mostly hanging out at Chaco & Eddie's coffee
shop and starting Chattanooga Online
with Meuon and Debbie (and a host of
helpful irregulars).
But the lure of games and movies and a real salary were too much for
me, and, with the help of Topspin and
Keevah and her boys (1) we packed
up the Ryder and headed west into parts
unknown.
5 years ago I'd been separated from Catherine for a
year and a half (although we just talked on Sunday evening), and was
unsure about my relationship with Charlene, whom I'd met in a hot tub
in Tiburon shortly after Catherine and I separated.
I'd left Pixar in January to join up with
Todd in Coyote Grits(which I'd actually agreed to do the September
before), a consulting company that ended up draining a moderate amount
of cash from me, but in the middle was, occasionally, a hell of a lot
of fun. This is when I'd take the rat boys over to the offices on
Friday nights for long hours of computer games. These were the heady
days of $35/head lunches at the late and lamented Alfi's, of
rewriting some truly grotesque Perl into
clean elegant code that the client really didn't want to ship because
their internal politics were far more important than actually
satisfying customers.
This was my third year at Burning Man,
Flutterby had been regularly updated for two and a half years, I was
still interested in games, my notes from that era talk about wanting
"...to get back to developing that romance-novel game genre",
something I've long since abandoned.
I was still into spirituality as a means for personal growth. I'd
divorced it from religion, and had been re-exploring ritual as a means
to personal expansion, but I'd had a few trust issues with some of the
circles I was hanging out in, and had started to realize that it was
harder to separate belief, ritual and spirituality than I thought.
3 years ago the .com bubble had burst, I'd spent a
year at Gracenote and then moved on to
Alvanon. Both taught me a lot, but the
latter made me soft; the company attitudes made me less excited about
programming, which brings me to...
1 year ago I'd been laid off from Alvanon and was looking around trying to figure out
what to do next. I was playing with some code of my own, stuff I still
hope to resurrect some day, but I really hadn't realized how soft my
coding skills had gotten.
We'd decided to not go to Burning Man
this year, and were even burned out on the whole burlesque revival
scene. Clearly, I needed a kick, and my life has always delivered.
Personally, Charlene and I had found our stride, a pace we continue to
today. I was recently describing the learning process to become
competent in Un*x, how it took longer to understand, but once you did
was much more rewarding, and I realized I was also describing some
personal relationships.
yesterday I'd planned to drive Charlene into work
after we dropped her car at the garage, but I couldn't find my keys,
so she went on and I planned to bike over to my developer's meeting
with the Digital Fish crew. Then she
called from the garage, which she'd coasted into after having car
problems, so I borrowed the houseguests' car, drove her to work, got
back, and had one of our houseguests drive me and my bike over to the
meeting. Spent the morning in the meeting, the afternoon hanging out
with a coworker working on one of his problems in getting Maya
data into our animation tool, picked up Charlene's car, and went over
and had dinner with Alec, Jeanne and Janine, where Charlene had
hung out after work.
And in that description is a lot of my current life. The houseguests
have been with us essentially since June, with a few breaks, and we
try to get out whenever we don't have to be around for Forest. I
value any time I get hanging out with either of the rat boys.
The bike has become quite a bit of my personal transportation; I'm
down to 155 lbs and in pretty good aerobic shape. Work is exciting
again, I'm challenged, learning stuff, I just hope I can make some
money from it soon. Charlene and I are getting along really well,
enjoying each other's company, supporting each other in many ways, and
willing to acknowledge that we're at different places physically.
And... well... some of you have heard the stories of the houseguests,
some of you haven't, but I think that this process is a cusp of yet
another major personal change, probably back to some of the more black
and white ethical stances I took in my twenties.
More as that develops...
#Comment Re: made: 2005-09-28 22:38:03.123319+00 by:
markd
Ugh - I'm 1986 too, and that's quite a fetid pile of horror in that top 100 list.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-09-28 22:57:30.748161+00 by:
Dan Lyke
Yeah, what amazed me was that there are a couple of artists there that have a few songs I'd listen to (mostly in the "if someone's passing a guitar and a joint around a campfire I'll sing along" kind of way) but even those artists only had losers that year.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-09-29 12:37:08.174001+00 by:
DaveP
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Hmm. There are at least a dozen songs from 1986 I dig enough to have in iTunes, or to think "I should
have that in iTunes".
- Addicted To Love, Robert Palmer
- Kiss, Prince and The Revolution (I like Tom Jones' cover better, though)
- Higher Love, Steve Winwood
- Sledgehammer, Peter Gabriel
- Rock Me Amadeus, Falco (I have the extended version somewhere on an EP)
- No One Is To Blame, Howard Jones
- Manic Monday, Bangles
- Walk Of Life, Dire Straits
- Invisible Touch, Genesis
- Take Me Home Tonight, Eddie Money
- R.O.C.K. In The U.S.A., John Cougar Mellencamp
- Silent Running, Mike and The Mechanics
- All I Need Is A Miracle, Mike and The Mechanics
- Walk This Way, Run-D.M.C.
But then I've got a weakness for good pop hooks, and a some of these have good hooks, even if the
whole song is pretty weak. And some are just stupid songs that struck me right.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-09-29 15:36:27.228219+00 by:
ebradway
Many of the old "pop" tunes like this were heard so repititiously that they actually become part of the collective consciousness. While, from an artistic point of view, most of it is "a fetid pile of horror", it does have the ability to awaken a sense of nostalgia - hence Dan's lengthy post about his life.
But there was something more to the 80s. As I look over my list from 88 - I guess I'm the youngster here. In the 80s, it was still possible to write a love song (Higher Love). It was possible for music to be as meaningless as "Manic Monday". Rock anthems were still big (R.O.C.K. In the USA, Rock me Amadeus, etc).
Maybe it was just where we were in our development or maybe it was where society was, but there was a little more naivete and little more bouncy fun. The 90s ushered in grunge rock, the grimy, world sucks, blow-your-head-off-with-a-shotgun, whining drone. The 00s (oughts), seem to be a return to something more lyrical but still planted firmly on the earth. Lots of acoustic guitar and folksy rythms (John Mayer, Jack Johnson, etc.). But maybe that's just what I'm listening too... Maybe I should see what my 11 year old daughter thinks is cool... Maybe it's bouncy and optimistic!
#Comment Re: made: 2005-09-29 15:54:20.758985+00 by:
Dan Lyke
'cept for maybe the Dire Straits which is still in rotation when I listen to music nowadays, I think Dave got my "might not switch away from on the radio" list, and then some. There's something about how Genesis, Steve Winwood, Peter Gabriel and Robert Palmer all used rhythm in a way that totally grates on me, and the Mike and The Mechanics tunes are ones that I have good associations with, but that when I hear 'em now I'm torn between those memories and "musically, this is so trite".
And I haven't investigated that feeling to know if it's the same as a friend who recently commented, on listening to Miles Davis, that he thought it was all so over done, then he realized that Davis was doing it a decade before anyone else.
I think "R.O.C.K. In the U.S.A." counts as one of the "losers from an artist I'd otherwise sing around a campfire", "Ain't That America" being one of the ones I like from him.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-09-29 16:15:40.145477+00 by:
ebradway
A couple months ago, I was in a coffee shop in Austin, TX, when Brothers in Arms came on the radio (the title track from the Dire Straits CD that Walk of Life is in). It was a double-whammy of nostalgia as I was living in Austin when the album first came out. It was also, by far, one of my favorites and still is. Of course, I was initially drawn in by I want my MTV, with Sting doing back-up vocals.
Dan: Interesting grouping of Genesis, Winwood, Gabriel and Palmer. I know Genesis and Gabriel have strong ties to what is called Progressive Rock and I think Winwood and Palmer do too. Prog Rock is marked by bizzarre time signatures like 7/32, and tend to switch rhythms frequently throughout a song.
Peter Gabriel was just starting to draw heavily on African influences - so the rhythms aren't necessarily in your cultural background.
As far as Miles goes, whenever you listen to Jazz, it has to be in the historical context. Jazz, much more so than rock, is a continuous tapestry of rhythmic development. To the extent that, as rock/pop revisits ideas in lyrics, jazz symply revisits the same lyrics and rhythms in "standards". It's why you can't label a long-time jazz performer as "Cool" or "Smooth" or "New Orleans". Anyone who's played jazz during that era was playing that style - and maybe a little of the previous style and little of the next style.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-09-29 18:54:37.577135+00 by:
Diane Reese
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I want my MTV would actually be Money for Nothing, yes?
Y'all are just youngsters, I'm afraid. I'd already been working for 10 years and was getting ready to have babies in the mid-'80s. My list from 1972 of songs I can still listen to is as follows, roughly in descending order of preference:
Layla - Derek and the Dominos
I Saw the Light - Todd Rundgren
Roundabout - Yes
Heart of Gold - Neil Young
City of New Orleans - Arlo Guthrie
Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress - Hollies
Anticipation - Carly Simon
School's Out - Alice Cooper
Without You - Nilsson (although I love Nilsson, this is not one of his best)
Lean on Me - Bill Withers
Let's Stay Together - Al Green
I Can See Clearly Now - Johnny Nash
Mother and Child Reunion - Paul Simon
Nights in White Satin - Moody Blues (although this is pushing my limits...)
Rocket Man - Elton John (ditto)
Lots of really, really insipid stuff that year, but also a few real keepers.
#Comment Re: made: 2005-09-29 19:17:55.564902+00 by:
Dan Lyke
Yeah, and my tolerance probably extends further into the insipid than most, I'd sit still for the Harry Chapin and the Don McLean, and although I think of 'em more as novelty songs, I don't mind "Hot Rod Lincoln", "My Ding-a-ling", and Jim Croce.
What I find really interesting about the 1972 list is just how musically varied the list is: To have Alice Cooper on the same list as Cat Stevens doing lyrics from 1931 (and a tune that's probably a century or more old) and Robert John doing a cover of something popularized in the 1950s reveals a musical diversity that I haven't been aware of since.
I do find two versions of "I'd like to teach the world to sing" somewhat humorous...
#Comment Re: made: 2005-09-29 20:08:38.189169+00 by:
ebradway
Interesting to see some of the same names show up on the 1972, 1986, and 1988 lists... Like Michael Jackson!
The 1972 list does have alot of true classics... In a trend that we might be seeing repeated now. And, there's the Prog Rockers: Yes and Moody Blues...