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New server

2007-04-14 19:25:23.600731+00 by Dan Lyke 20 comments

Okay, web stuff is on the new server, email still needs to be transferred across, but if you can read this it should be on the new machine. Thanks, Meuon!

Oh yeah: Note problems you run into. One that may crop up is that I haven't fully tested character encoding and internationalization issues in the new system, and I know there are some bugs there.

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#Comment Re: Testing the comments made: 2007-04-14 19:35:13.44092+00 by: Dan Lyke

Testing to see if the comments work.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-14 20:14:58.247754+00 by: meuon

They work. :)

So far, in doing some things for other people, Ubuntu's LAMP server install seems to be very internationalization friendly with lots of UTF-8 character support. So far. I'm sure you will push that limit and see it break.

Congrats!

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-14 20:22:05.923465+00 by: Dan Lyke

Yeah, the problem I ran into with the conversion is that my install of PostgreSQL on the old machine didn't seem to care what I stuffed into it, where the new machine wants UTF-8. So at some point I'll have to resolve that problem, probably the first time anyone tries to paste 8859-1 or Windows-whatever-it-is into a text box.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-14 20:51:49.841166+00 by: meuon

It (Flutterby) seems quite a bit faster, or is it just my perception?

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-14 21:47:24.477077+00 by: Dan Lyke

I don't know, because Flutterby.net seems a heck of a lot slower.

But Flutterby.com might be the Perl that runs Flutterby is pretty darned tuned for whatever environment it ends up running in, and I'm pretty sure that mod_perl's a pretty accepting environment. I haven't tried tuning PHP for the MediaWiki installs yet.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-14 21:47:45.776941+00 by: Dan Lyke

Whoah. Yeah. Just posted that message. Flutterby.com is screamingly faster.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-15 00:54:38.986948+00 by: meuon

It's MediaWiki (fat cow code). This server will soon have more ram, that will help. People complain about my large .php files with lots of functions, but I think they scream compared to things built like mediawiki that open up lots of files as includes, including CSS and other things. There are probably optimal Apache configs to be tweaked for it as well.

ChattanoogaGrotto.org is also running on that machine on MediaWiki if you want to compare.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-15 13:40:33.437862+00 by: Dan Lyke

Feels similar... Might be time to re-evaluate Wikis. Again.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-15 14:42:36.406401+00 by: meuon [edit history]

If I had time, I'd love to write one.. Widget is close to being one, Widget runs things like everythingjustso.com and astd-chatt.org.

The first 90% of any PHP/MySQL/CSS CMS-ish web project takes X time, the last 10% of the project takes X2 time. We'll soon have public demo's of what the current state of NextKnowledge's systems are like and I'll get to show off what is essentially a year of my coding time and development. We've been too busy taking care of clientelle to toot our horn.

Just so much else to do.. and I -have- to make some cycling time for health and sanity sake.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-17 03:52:56.078412+00 by: Dori

Do you know your RSS feed isn't updating since the changeover? Or is there a new URI for it?

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-17 16:24:11.057248+00 by: Dan Lyke

I think I fixed it yesterday, Dori, but I'll double-check. Thanks.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-17 20:38:16.568754+00 by: Dori

Well, now it's updating, but it's munged... for instance, this post shows as:

<html><body><p>Okay, web stuff is on the new server, email still needs to be transferred across, but if you can read this it should be on the new machine. Thanks, Meuon!</p> <p>Oh yeah: Note problems you run into. One that may crop up is that I haven't fully tested character encoding and internationalization issues in the new system, and I know there are some bugs there. </p> </body></html>

(let's see what this turns into!)

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-17 21:03:22.442408+00 by: Dan Lyke

Gack. Stupid RSS pretending to be a specification. And it looks like the XML::RSS module is amazingly b0rk3n, that I had an older version of the module that worked and the new version is hosed.

Okay, ages ago I threatened to switch to Atom for everything. Might be time, now, but it won't be for a few days. See if what's there now is less hosed.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-17 22:20:59.534553+00 by: Dori

Looks perfect now--thanks!

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-17 22:48:04.21675+00 by: Dan Lyke

You're welcome.

Still need to get the NNTP version working.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-22 18:16:29.354281+00 by: ebradway

XML::RSS is still not working right...

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-22 21:22:31.783933+00 by: ebradway

RSS is back. Thanks Dan.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-04-23 14:46:24.205571+00 by: Dan Lyke

Tell me about whatever else is going wrong... Still need to fix NNTP and get email transferred.

#Comment Re: [Entry #9923] Re: made: 2007-05-08 16:10:45.206959+00 by: Unknown, from NNTP

Dan Lyke <danlyke@flutterby.com> writes:

>    From the weblog entry at
>    http://www.flutterby.com/archives/comments/9923.html
>
>    Tell me about whatever else is going wrong... Still need to fix NNTP
>    and get email transferred.

NNTP appears to be working now, at least for reading; posting via NNTP to test that...

#Comment Re: made: 2007-05-08 16:25:35.702506+00 by: Dan Lyke

> NNTP appears to be working now, at least for reading; posting via NNTP to test that...

Yay!